
Sydney James Chiswell, known
better as Jim, is president of Chiswell & Associates Ltd., a
Williamsville, N.Y.-based consulting firm that specializes in
business development, sales and marketing, employee training,
strategic planning and association management. A graduate of
State University of New York at Buffalo with a degree in
political science, Mr. Chiswell became active in the National
Association of Home Builders in 1982, directing the headquarters'
staff of 25 people and a national field staff of eight
specialists. In addition, he was responsible for national
membership operations and management of special-interest councils
in the fields of sales and marketing, remodeling, commercial
construction and multifamily development and management.
In 1984, Mr. Chiswell entered the self-storage industry by
way of the Sovran Group Inc., also based in Williamsville, N.Y.
As a Sovran vice president, he was responsible for
management of the company's real-estate portfolio, consisting of
36 self-storage facilities with 1.9 million square feet of
rentable space. He also managed a team of individual property
managers and regional district managers, encompassing a
nine-state area. Six years after joining Sovran, he left the
company and established Chiswell & Associates.
A past regional president and board member of the Self
Storage Association, Mr. Chiswell makes his home in
Williamsville, N.Y., with his wife, Jackie, with whom he has
raised two daughters, Alyssa and Christie. He has been a frequent
contributor to Inside Self-Storage and has conducted numerous
seminars at the Inside Self-Storage expos and trade fairs.
Through the years, he has advised and inspired many self-storage
developers, operators and managers--through his consulting
services, speaking engagements and published articles--garnering
a reputation as one of the most respected and revered members of
the self-storage community.
We are honored to present an interview with Jim
Chiswell...
Can you give us a brief synopsis of how you were first
introduced to the industry and what the status of self-storage
was at that time?
My first introduction to the industry was at the National
Association of Home Builders in Washington, D.C. At that time, I
was a staff vice president of NAHB and worked with the Commercial
Builders Council--a special-interest council within the national
organization. Some of the men on the council, like Jim Knuppe of
California, were telling others on the committee that they were
building facilities and renting empty units to people to store
their belongings. They were very successful with these projects.
I also remember some of the people thinking that they were nuts.
My in-depth involvement came when I joined the Sovran group in
1984. I joined the firm doing apartment acquisition due
diligence. Bob Attea, now chairman of the board of the Sovran
Self Storage REIT (real estate investment trust), had an interest
looking for new investments for the company to key in on. He was
really the one who got me focused on self-storage. At that same
time, Buzz Victor (a former Buffaloian) was conducting his
seminar program--similar to what he is doing today. I went to Las
Vegas for one of the seminars, which was a great way to immerse
yourself in the industry. The sessions helped to fill in some of
my knowledge gaps and allowed me to get to know more about the
industry from experts. I respect all that Buzz has accomplished
in the industry and the influence he has had in shaping the early
direction of self-storage.
Anyway, the industry in the 1980s was starting to take hold,
more in the South and the West than in the Northeast. For the
time that I was at Sovran, which was until about 1990, the
industry experienced a considerable amount of growth, and people
could virtually just throw together a building and tenants would
fill it up. So the industry was basically in its infancy.
How would you say that things have changed over the
years?
If you look at the last 10 or 15 years, the amount of money
that has moved into this niche real-estate market has changed
things a great deal. Investors now understand that self-storage
is not a fad or a method to just "land bank" property.
It started out with private limited partnerships and then public
partnerships, and finally, a big role is played by REITs, such as
Storage USA, Storage Trust and Sovran. I anticipate a couple of
new REIT entries to come to market in 1998. Certainly the amount
of money and attention self-storage has received from Wall Street
is changing the industry. We are going through a consolidation
phase as a maturing business. I expect that to continue for some
time. The major players still control a minority share of the
industry, but they clearly control many individual market areas.
As a whole, the industry has definitely matured a great deal.
Probably the majority of owners have computerized their
operations, and there's a great deal more attention being paid to
facility design and the flow of traffic and people. We are also
spending more money to provide increased levels of security for
the property and our customers. And who would have thought that
people would be carpeting the interior hallways of their projects
and entire newly constructed projects are being built with 100
percent climate controlled units.
We also have a lot more commercial people who have recognized
what self-storage can mean. One of the things I've said for years
is that self-storage has never been given the credit it deserves
for helping entrepreneurship in America. There are hundreds of
thousands of small businesses in America, where people are
working out of their homes. Their businesses exist because they
have a place for the UPS and Roadway trucks to deliver their
inventory--a place for them to warehouse their products and
samples. Self-storage offers them a place that is close to home
and convenient, but it's still a short-term arrangement.
Therefore, if their business turns around or they can grow it,
they can move out of the storage unit without any problem. We've
never gotten the credit for the positive impact of making
available short-term, affordable storage space to small-business
owners, who otherwise would find themselves with problems with
their neighbors because of the truck deliveries and stuck having
to rent a much larger space on long-term lease.
Also, our residential customers have learned to use
self-storage to help make lifestyle decisions. We are not used
only when someone moves anymore. I see that also helping to
continue growing the industry. It is creating an entire strata of
occupancy that is never going to leave. If you look at the
average residential customer, he rents for about six to eight
months. On the commercial side, the average stay at many
facilities is running 20 to 24 months. You still have a lot of
ins and outs, but I think people are beginning to recognize that
self-storage allows them to take more control of their
lives--putting lawnmowers in storage for the winter and taking
out the skidoos for the winter, for example, or women who live in
small Manhattan efficiency apartments storing their
change-of-season wardrobes in a self-storage unit.
I attribute some of the growing awareness about self-storage
to college and military families. After graduation or moving into
civilian life, it is a natural thing to continue to use
self-storage when it has served you well for several years. Just
the shear number of projects with all those doors serving as
"silent signs" have also helped increase our visibility
to the American public. Although I have not seen any scientific
data, my guess is that the majority of Americans has still never
used self-storage. So there is still a level of potential demand
that has not yet been tapped.
We seem to be sailing through the '90s. Do you think
that the industry has learned from the glut of the late '80s and
early '90s?
Some people have, but many have not. The people who have
learned have been in the business for a number of years. The
people who haven't been in the business for long don't understand
that this business goes through cycles and that you can overbuild
an area. From what I can see, we're going to continue drawing new
people to the industry. I've seen an awful lot of construction in
the last couple of years. So, I do think we are going to see
overbuilding in some markets.
The difference between this time and last time is that there
are a lot more people standing on the sidelines--vultures, call
them what you want--who are prepared to walk in if things go
wrong. If by chance a bank has to take back self-storage
facilities because of a group's inability to make mortgage
payments, they won't have them for very long. Between the REITs
and strong regional companies out there, they will step up to the
plate quickly to buy any project at below-retail market prices.
Another factor to consider is the older facilities that
haven't been maintained, that are in "B" and
"C" locations; these facilities are going to pay a
price.
Do you think the small-time operators (who run maybe
one or two facilities at the most) have a fighting chance against
the major players in the industry?
There is no question that the individual entrepreneur will
always have an opportunity to make a success in this business.
You can look at all the chain restaurants-the Applebees, the
Olive Gardens, the Chilis--you might think that they monopolize
the restaurant industry, but there's always room for the good
quality restaurant run locally by a business person who is
attentive to his customer and the community. I've said it before,
and I always get in trouble for saying this: A committed local
owner can always out-manage a national company. Because they're
there, they bring more personality into the business and pay more
attention to detail, the facility is generally kept in better
condition. The other thing, too, that gives them a fighting
chance, is that they know their local market better.
Unfortunately, I've also seen owners who worked hard to get the
project and leased-up to 80 percent to 85 percent occupancy then
have started to neglect things because they are getting a great
return and just assume everything will continue to sail along.
Before they know it, problems have developed and occupancy is
dropping. Many times it didn't have to happen if they had
continued to stay involved in the facility.
How do small-time operators stay afloat?
They stay afloat by paying attention to detail. They continue
to run a successful business by looking at it and considering how
it can be improved, how it can be better maintained or how
management can be improved. How can I stretch my managers so that
they are better at their jobs and treat my customers better? Am I
staying on top of what's going on in the marketplace in terms of
possible new competition, new subdivisions or new development
where I could generate new rentals? It's my attention to detail
that assures me that I'm the cheapest facility in the market. I
talk to people that haven't moved their rents in three years and
I look at them and ask, "Why?" It just doesn't make
sense.
Another thing that will help them stay afloat against the
bigger operators is to keep the project looking sharp. For
example, the curb appeal of the project can make a real
difference. Keep putting out the seasonal annual flowers. Make
sure the signs and paint outside and inside the office are always
detailed. In many cases, I see the local operator creating a
better end-product than what the national companies are doing by
in large.
Do you think the industry will continue to grow at the
same rate it has in the last couple of years?
I think there are markets that will continue to experience
even stronger growth than they've been. I look at the Northeast
and see an area that continues to be woefully underserved by
self-storage. A part of that is because of zoning. I was down in
Texas and met an owner who was able to put up a 4-by-8-foot
billboard as a sign for his facility. I couldn't put up a
4-by-8-foot billboard for a facility in suburban Buffalo, where I
live, if the land was owned by the mayor and the city council was
all involved in the project. So, in some cases, the zoning is a
lot more restrictive, and it takes a lot more creativity to
successfully convert a building to self-storage than to build on
a five-acre piece of land at the intersection of two great roads
offering tremendous visibility.
What are the dangers ahead?
Some of the dangers are to believe our own press
clippings...that this industry is on a tear and that it will
continue to grow uniformly across the markets. That is not the
case. Another area of danger is deferred maintenance. You do need
to spend money to make money. I also see danger signs where
owners are not involving their managers and other employees in
the entire business. They're not involved in preparing the annual
budgets or in designing the Yellow Pages. Those are all classic
symptoms to me that you've got problems ahead.
What are the repercussions?
You run the risk of increased theft and the loss of tenants.
Another problem is crime. Crime continues to be a problem for
this industry, and requires that we take the time to know what's
happening at our facilities. A lot of owners and managers think
that the whole issue of "care, custody and control"
means that we can't ask people, "What's in that
canvas-covered truck?" But that's just not true. I have
every right to ask you what you're storing in that unit in my
building. Our occupancy agreement precludes things from being
stored. But if you don't ask, how will you know? Unlike our
President Bill Clinton's idea of "don't ask, don't
tell," it doesn't work for self-storage. I've talked to
managers that think it isn't right to watch while somebody is
moving stuff into a unit, but if they're stacking the unit with
propane gas tanks, don't you think the manager/operator has the
right to say, "Wait a second. You can't do that. You're
violating your occupancy agreement."
Managers should be visible on the site. The more visible a
manager is outside the office, the less likely something criminal
is going to happen. There are a few people who have criminal
intent that will try to take advantage of this industry. I think
it's up to all of us in this industry to work very diligently to
maintain the excellent reputation that we enjoy all across the
country, so we don't run into problems in the future.
How can we combat the crime problem?
Again, it's diligence in how you screen the tenants. Perhaps
something as simple as how the facility is lit at night. What
details are you considering? Do you have cameras up or are they
just fakes? Well, we have people relying on the fact that they
think they have video surveillance--and that's why they selected
the facility to begin with. Where we lose attention to detail is
when this industry gets into trouble.
One of the traps that we've fallen into is that we think
computers run a self-storage facility. They don't; people run
self-storage facilities. Computers are just a tool to help us do
the job easier. They don't run a project; they just free the
manager up so that they can run the facility more easily. On that
note, I don't care how small your facility is, you should have a
computer, because it is a great tool. But, it is just a tool.
What are the highlights of the future?
I think the future holds a growing level of professionalism
for this industry. I think education is the key to that, and I
think it's going to be one of the highlights over the next five
to 10 years. I think you'll be able to walk into most facilities
10 years from now, and that manager is really going to do a
quality job, making you understand the features of the facility.
They're going to do a quality job on the phone in getting you to
come the facility. Because, to me, self-storage isn't sold over
the phone, it's sold when that person comes in the door.
If you could change one thing for the future, what
would it be?
I'd put a cap and gown on everybody. Even though I've said
it's one of the highlights of the future, it's the greatest need
in this industry...to educate our people and make them better
sales people. I also think that we're going to see a growing
trend to the development of individual state associations within
the industry. More and more people are realizing that there are
very few national issues that the industry will face, but there
are a ton of local and statewide issues. I look at the efforts
within the Texas, New York, Louisiana and Atlanta associations,
and see some very exciting things going on. This industry, like
every other industry, is just starting to understand that by
banding together you can lick your problems. If we take the
"I don't need anybody else attitude," then we get
divided and conquered. Maybe it will be a while before some
areas--like North Dakota and South Dakota--that have their own
associations, but certainly there is a reason for people to get
together in major metropolitan areas. I think it is the
responsibility of the leaders within each state to make it their
business to create these associations so that if a problem does
come up they have a structure that can be used to work through
it. If I could create a state association in every state in the
union, I'd do it. The entire industry would benefit.
What's your best advice for newcomers to the industry?
Talk to people. Read everything you can get your hands on.
Educate yourself. Get to seminars, get to meetings. You need to
know enough about the industry before you even think about
picking out a site. You also have to spend a little money at the
front end to get somebody knowledgeable to help advise you; it is
the best money you'll spend...even if that person tells you the
truth that you shouldn't build on a specific site. The other
advice for newcomers is: Don't be misled by the outward
appearance of this industry. There's more to it than meets the
eye. And there's more to it every year because of competition and
legislation. You can't do enough homework before getting into the
business. Finally, join your state association and join the
national association--the Self Storage Association.
From whom have you learned the most?
I've learned what unconditional love is from my wife, Jackie,
and the simple joy of a smile and a kiss on the cheek from our
daughters, Christie and Alyssa. I learned how to work hard from
my dad, and I know about devotion to family from my mom. In terms
of this business, I've already mentioned Buzz Victor. I've
learned a lot from Bob Attea of Sovran. He taught me the
discipline of real-estate acquisition. Joe Niemcyk and Mel
Holsinger have taught me a great deal as I've watched them grow
their business. I consider Executive Self Storage one of the
finest managed companies in this business.
I've learned a lot over the years through my friendship with
Hardy Good. I've seen him re-engineer his company and fine tune
operations to meet the needs of the industry. One of the people
that stands near the top of the list is Doug Sarini of Manhattan
Mini Storage/Edison Parking. He was the chairman of board of the
New York State Association while I served as the organization's
president. Doug has a vision of where this industry could go and
a strong commitment to the NYSSSA. He gave unselfishly as an
organizational leader, and that has always meant a lot to me.
I've also learned a great deal from Ken Piken. Ken was general
counsel for the association and someone that I could always count
on.
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